据俄罗斯《真理报》10月22日报道,如果回顾1900年到2009年的历史,不难发现只有历史上只有一个人的影响力可以与美国现任总统奥巴马相提并论,这个人就是德国纳粹领袖希特勒。《真理报》日前盘点了奥巴马与希特勒的十二点相似之处。
1、奥巴马和希特勒拥有类似的祖先血统,奥巴马的祖先是德国人,希特勒的祖先是奥地利人。
2、两人的出生证明、公民身份以及宗教信仰,都存在很多争议。
3、“父亲”对于奥巴马和希特勒都是不愿提及的往事。奥巴马2岁时,他的父母就离婚了,他的父亲后来回到肯尼亚。奥巴马只在1982年父亲出车祸即将去世时,见过他一面;而希特勒与思想保守的父亲关系也很糟糕,父亲经常打他。
4、两人年轻时,都曾酗酒。奥巴马称那段日光是他“最大的道德失败”,而希特勒称那是他“一生中最感到羞耻的经历”。
5、两人都不受犹太人欢迎。犹太人憎恨希特勒的原因是他的大屠杀恶行;而对于奥巴马来说,他取得美国总统大选的胜利,但在以色列并不受欢迎。
6、都曾当选美国《时代》杂志年度人物。奥巴马当选《时代》杂志2008年度人物;希特勒当选《时代》杂志1938年年度人物。
7、奥巴马和希特勒都曾出版过畅销书:奥巴马写过回忆录《父辈的梦想》和政治宣言《无畏的希望》;希特勒写过《我的奋斗》,里面既包括了希特勒的自传,也描述了他的政治理想。
8、奥巴马曾深受非洲裔美国民权领袖马丁·路德·金的影响,而希特勒也受到德国宗教改革人物马丁·路德的启发。
9、奥巴马和希特勒掌权时,都正值经济衰退期。奥巴马于2009年初就任美国总统,希特勒在1933年大权在握。
10、两人都是深受民众崇拜的领导人,他们被描述成政治和经济衰退的救世主。只有当一个国家的领导人被媒体创造出理想化和英雄化的形象时,才会出现个人崇拜现象。
11、奥巴马和希特勒都是天才的演说家,能够吸引广大听众的兴趣。他们演讲时,通常都配以手势,增强演说效果。
12、两人都推行了医疗卫生改革。(沈姝华)
- Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/24/2009
So what? I see nothing bad in these similarities. - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/24/2009
这是一个心理战,想用联想的方法把他们连在一起,使人对奥巴马产生反感。问题是这12件事本身有什么不对的吗?希特勒喜欢听音乐,天下喜欢听音乐的人将被如何判断?
liaokang wrote:
So what? I see nothing bad in these similarities. - posted on 10/24/2009
I was listening to NPR news the other day and heard part of Chairman's speech about alternative energy. He said whichever country becomes the leader in alternative energy, that country will have tremendous advantage in the world. He said in a resolute and assertive way, "I want America to be that country."
Then I said to him, "I f**k your mom!"
There are two points. The first point is whether alternative energy will make economics sense. The second point is before that question can be answered affirmatively, the Chairman announced that HE wants America to be that country. What is he? God? Hitler? Mao? Stalin? What is he? He is a fascist.
Go ahead and embrace him and embrace a-liberty. A-liberty is amoral.
- posted on 10/24/2009
Who is he? He is the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the land. Whether you like him or hate him, he has POWER. Power, do you understand? That's what makes the difference. That's why when he speaks, people listen; When he wants something to happen, people may deliver for him.
Who are you? What do you have? A powerless, pathetic lunatic with twisted mind, dark psyche and a closet life. You do not belong to this world.
no name wrote:
I was listening to NPR news the other day and heard part of Chairman's speech about alternative energy. He said whichever country becomes the leader in alternative energy, that country will have tremendous advantage in the world. He said in a resolute and assertive way, "I want America to be that country."
Then I said to him, "I f**k your mom!"
There are two points. The first point is whether alternative energy will make economics sense. The second point is before that question can be answered affirmatively, the Chairman announced that HE wants America to be that country. What is he? God? Hitler? Mao? Stalin? What is he? He is a fascist.
Go ahead and embrace him and embrace a-liberty. A-liberty is amoral.
- posted on 10/24/2009
Look at what you wrote here again. Aren't you ashamed of yourself? I guess not. Look at your worshiping of POWER (word copied from your own post). Aren't you ashamed of yourself? I guess not.
If I do not belong to this world as you said, you do not deserve to live a free life because you are not capable of living a free life.
I don't feel any pity on you. You deserve the life you are living now. Keep rotting please.
passerby wrote:
Who is he? He is the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the land. Whether you like him or hate him, he has POWER. Power, do you understand? That's what makes the difference. That's why when he speaks, people listen; When he wants something to happen, people may deliver for him.
Who are you? What do you have? A powerless, pathetic lunatic with twisted mind, dark psyche and a closet life. You do not belong to this world.
- posted on 10/24/2009
This naked POWER worshiping makes a perfect match to Chairman's speech "I want America to be that country." How wonderful! Think about it.
These rotting worms, I don't care to pay any attention to. Let them keep rotting.
passerby wrote:
Who is he? He is the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the land. Whether you like him or hate him, he has POWER. Power, do you understand? That's what makes the difference. That's why when he speaks, people listen; When he wants something to happen, people may deliver for him.
Who are you? What do you have? A powerless, pathetic lunatic with twisted mind, dark psyche and a closet life. You do not belong to this world.
- Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/24/2009
人同黑猩猩在基因构造上的差别尚且不足百分之五,所以人与人之间有十二点相似之处不足为怪。我们甚至可以说任何人都可以同奥巴马或希特勒有多于十二点的相似之处。
- Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/24/2009
不过,不是任何人都能有第十点相似处的。这一点大概是这个玩笑的主要动机。:) - posted on 10/24/2009
我显然错过了那个玩笑,因为我根本就没有读清单上的任何一条。:)
不过这也不难,把古今中外“深受民众崇拜的领导人”从黄帝、大禹、。。。岳飞、穆桂英、华盛顿、林肯、邱吉尔、金正日等都列出来,再添上十一条就成了。
" 10、两人都是深受民众崇拜的领导人,他们被描述成政治和经济衰退的救世主。只有当一个国家的领导人被媒体创造出理想化和英雄化的形象时,才会出现个人崇拜现象。"
令胡冲 wrote:
不过,不是任何人都能有第十点相似处的。这一点大概是这个玩笑的主要动机。:) - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/24/2009
DUP - posted on 10/24/2009
Hehe, I actually live a much happier and much freeer life, more than you can imagine. The reason is simple: I recognize the imperfection of this world, and the imperfect nature of man. Knowing that one can not transcend the inherent constraints beyond his control, I chose to come to terms with it, therefore live a normal and healthy life. True, I hold that law, order, power, and enforcement are all necessary elements of a functioning society, in part to prevent lunatics like you to have your way.
Of course, you are DIFFERENT (note this word is also capitalized), different than most of your fellow human beings (perhaps "superior" using your own golden standard?) You are a complainer, complaining all the time. But because of your inferior mental faculties, you are not able to rise to become somebody to change what you complain about, neither can you come to terms with it. Therefore you are in constant struggle, deep in you full of pain and misery. The only way through which you can find some pitiful comfort is complaining, complaining nonstop, until the very day you die. Can you claim that kind life "free"?
no name wrote:
Look at what you wrote here again. Aren't you ashamed of yourself? I guess not. Look at your worshiping of POWER (word copied from your own post). Aren't you ashamed of yourself? I guess not.
If I do not belong to this world as you said, you do not deserve to live a free life because you are not capable of living a free life.
I don't feel any pity on you. You deserve the life you are living now. Keep rotting please.
passerby wrote:
Who is he? He is the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the land. Whether you like him or hate him, he has POWER. Power, do you understand? That's what makes the difference. That's why when he speaks, people listen; When he wants something to happen, people may deliver for him.
Who are you? What do you have? A powerless, pathetic lunatic with twisted mind, dark psyche and a closet life. You do not belong to this world.
- Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/24/2009
每次听大师批评奥主席,我就猜想着他们肯定有私仇,大师,你太逗了。
其他都可以怀疑,但有一点是非常肯定的,the ugly truth is that the world will be even more conservative before you realize it.
我今天在LA逛,这点感受尤其深,就是4、5年前,人都还没这么保守呢。好莱坞被一群保守的犹太人牢牢控制住金融主脉,他们异口同声要加重处罚波兰斯基。xw说犹太人怎么怎么抱团,怎么团结,其实犹太人之间的矛盾内斗并不少于其他族裔。
LA有一大群保守的犹太人,他们与自由派犹太人水火不容。
- posted on 10/24/2009
不想搅和你的网站。我就仅说主席而已,却总遭受主席之外的人们因那对我的攻击。
主席说那话(“I want America to be that country”)时, 重音放在“I”。你也
知道主席的演讲是很抑扬顿挫的,必前总统布什要更戏剧化。
就是因为主席有POWER并用POWER,他就不仅是说而且是做,他说“I want America
to be that country”,他就那么做。我说他是法西斯,不是空口胡说。法西斯就
是把整个经济控制起来。主席那样说,他就是要控制经济。只有上帝才能控制着经
济,没有任何一个别的单人能控制住。真去控制的都是法西斯。即使法西斯也控制
不住,最后都要不了了之或彻底完蛋。
那些崇拜权力(POWER)的,都是臭虫而已。到了哪里都是臭虫。别看他们有的道貌岸
然,甚至一付正义凛然的反共模样,由于他们天生的崇拜权力,他们还是臭虫。不
小心,就露馅了。
法西斯和崇拜权力的那些臭虫,相依为命,谁也离不开谁。天生的配对。
至于所谓的保守派(“conservatives”),那帮子混帐东西,由于披上了基督教的外
衣,以为自己是上帝的代言人,其实是自由的死敌。不要以为反主席的都是保守派。
maya wrote:
- Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/25/2009
你这法西斯的帽子也太容易扣了。消消气,别把肺气炸了,拿腮呼吸。 - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/25/2009
看见法西斯,不认识。听见别人揭露法西斯,还不认识。等法西斯咬得痛得喊救命的
时候,就太晚了,而且还不认识。不要以为我为了拥护某个侯选人才攻击主席。我
不拥护任何候选人。我知道一些人一听批评主席的话就恼火,因为他们太爱主席(演
的那个角色)了。;-)
- Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/26/2009
这一条条仔细一看,差不多都是胡扯蛋。人一发骚,斑斑点点都活像乳头。
阿斗是大爱如恨啊,不要这样了,已经有丈夫了,把奥主席还给米歇尔吧。 - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/26/2009
谢谢老虻翻起这贴,这第五点,还有第八点有点意思。第五点要说也
不能把大屠杀后的希特勒拿来说话,说犹太人不喜欢奥巴马,倒真是
的,我公司犹太人普遍不喜欢奥,他们还说,奥当总统他们就去大溪
地住。奥当选后我问他们,又都没了话。
犹太人在美国一般右倾,相当抱团。犹太人诉苦的日子早成了过去。
第八点,马丁*路德,马丁*路德*金,确实好比。希特勒跟马丁*路德
的关联咱还未弄清,得花些时间格一格。说启发,也许是有,都是日
尔曼的革命家嘛:) - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/26/2009
“奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处”那篇狗屁玩艺,我都没怎么读。那篇狗屁玩艺
只指出形似,连形似都不似。我说的是神似 - 法西斯。
昨天在Costco见到Ron Paul写的一本书,翻了翻目录,没买,没必要买。 - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/26/2009
事实上,第六和第七点相似之处也很尖锐有趣。XW有空也顺便研究一下我的奋斗,看看是不是跟无畏的希望有些相似之处。:)
6、都曾当选美国《时代》杂志年度人物。奥巴马当选《时代》杂志2008年度人物;希特勒当选《时代》杂志1938年年度人物。
7、奥巴马和希特勒都曾出版过畅销书:奥巴马写过回忆录《父辈的梦想》和政治宣言《无畏的希望》;希特勒写过《我的奋斗》,里面既包括了希特勒的自传,也描述了他的政治理想。
xw wrote: - posted on 10/26/2009
这“我的奋斗”我还是读过的,是节本。全不是烂书,够能蛊惑,把
弗洛伊德的心理术全用上啦。希的组织学,是学苏共的。
可惜奥这书我还没读,估计五十年后再读吧,如果能存五十年:)
令胡冲 wrote:
事实上,第六和第七点相似之处也很尖锐有趣。XW有空也顺便研究一下我的奋斗,看看是不是跟无畏的希望有些相似之处。:)
6、都曾当选美国《时代》杂志年度人物。奥巴马当选《时代》杂志2008年度人物;希特勒当选《时代》杂志1938年年度人物。
7、奥巴马和希特勒都曾出版过畅销书:奥巴马写过回忆录《父辈的梦想》和政治宣言《无畏的希望》;希特勒写过《我的奋斗》,里面既包括了希特勒的自传,也描述了他的政治理想。
xw wrote: - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/26/2009
真理报的八卦就这水平,才十二点相似? 令胡花一个晚上,肯定也能找出120个相似点来:))
玛雅说的不对吧,好莱坞的大腕们排起队给波兰斯基当说客,Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese, Steven Soderbergh..... - Re: 奥巴马与希特勒有十二点相似之处posted on 10/30/2009
这我可找不出来。写宪章谁都可以写,因为那时众所周知的东西,自己东拼西凑列一列就可以了。可是写这个,可得有心人,得写一阵子。
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