《天使与魔鬼》周五就要上映了。这本小说写得没有《达芬奇密码》好,懂物理的也会看到一些胡扯,但《天使与魔鬼》具有很好的拍电影的元素,相信会比《达芬奇密码》好看得多。当然,这些都是娱乐,别当真。
- posted on 05/14/2009
I think it is much better than the Da Vinci Code. The plot is much more complex and it has more grisly and creative ways to kill off people.
I was disappointed by the Da Vinci Code movie though, so I don’t know what to expect this time. Tom Hanks is a great actor, no doubt about that, but he doesn’t have much sex appeal that Robert Langdon should have. The role should go to Ralph Fiennes or Liam Neeson.
Ah, I like the summer movie season. It is exciting! (in Scotty’s voice)
- posted on 05/14/2009
汤姆汉可斯不像教授,他还是哪个森林傻瓜演得好。
Susan wrote:
I think it is much better than the Da Vinci Code. The plot is much more complex and it has more grisly and creative ways to kill off people.
I was disappointed by the Da Vinci Code movie though, so I don’t know what to expect this time. Tom Hanks is a great actor, no doubt about that, but he doesn’t have much sex appeal that Robert Langdon should have. The role should go to Ralph Fiennes or Liam Neeson.
Ah, I like the summer movie season. It is exciting! (in Scotty’s voice)
- posted on 05/14/2009
I never saw the Da Vinci movie. I thought it was a complicated storyline even in the novel, and a movie adaptation can hardly be coherent.
But since I didn't read this novel, I will definitely go see the movie.
Incidentally, one of the actors in the movie trashed Dan Brown's books. I thought Da Vinci is a fairly entertaining book, and you never take these books seriously anyway.
Ralph Fiennes, the sensitive kind women like, I can understand. But Liam Neeson is quite different, no? ;-)
Susan wrote:
I think it is much better than the Da Vinci Code. The plot is much more complex and it has more grisly and creative ways to kill off people.
I was disappointed by the Da Vinci Code movie though, so I don’t know what to expect this time. Tom Hanks is a great actor, no doubt about that, but he doesn’t have much sex appeal that Robert Langdon should have. The role should go to Ralph Fiennes or Liam Neeson.
Ah, I like the summer movie season. It is exciting! (in Scotty’s voice)
- Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/14/2009
Tom Hanks can do just fine in romantic comedies like Sleepless in Seattle. But as Robert Langdon?!
Oh well, this guy has range, so maybe he can pull it off this time. At least his hairdo looks much better now.
July wrote:
汤姆汉可斯不像教授,他还是哪个森林傻瓜演得好。 - posted on 05/14/2009
Ah… Liam Neeson always comes across as a quite sensitive guy to me. I still remember him in the chick flick “Love Actually”. Ralph Fiennes can play some really cold and insensitive roles, like in “The Duchess” or “In Bruges”.
But I like them both. Why so many great actors/actresses are from UK or Australia?
tar wrote:
Ralph Fiennes, the sensitive kind women like, I can understand. But Liam Neeson is quite different, no? ;-)
- Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/14/2009
I thought David Duchovny could play that professor role too. Ralph Fienne is great of course. Most of the English actors/actresses in hollywood are good. - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/14/2009
I feel the same. :-) They have the style that American actors don't have.
Susan wrote:
But I like them both. Why so many great actors/actoresses are from UK or Australia?
tar wrote:
Ralph Fiennes, the sensitive kind women like, I can understand. But Liam Neeson is quite different, no? ;-)
- posted on 05/14/2009
Susan wrote:
Ah… Liam Neeson always comes across as a quite sensitive guy to me. I still remember him in the chick flick “Love Actually”. Ralph Fiennes can play some really cold and insensitive roles, like in “The Duchess” or “In Bruges”.
But I like them both. Why so many great actors/actresses are from UK or Australia?
Sophistication. American actors just don't seem to have as much sophistication as their European counterparts.
I am afraid the same can be said about popular culture... - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/14/2009
It has something to do with the training? I think UK actors have more theatre experiences and that help them to understand what works with the audiences and what doesn’t.
David Duchovny nah… Too much X-Files and not enough Harrison Ford… How about Colin Firth?
yc wrote:
I feel the same. :-) They have the style that American actors don't have. - posted on 05/15/2009
Even in In Bruges, his gangster alter ego is still quite sensitive to me. ;-) His love for his friend (Gleeson's character) is very tender. ;-)
Susan wrote:
Ah… Liam Neeson always comes across as a quite sensitive guy to me. I still remember him in the chick flick “Love Actually”. Ralph Fiennes can play some really cold and insensitive roles, like in “The Duchess” or “In Bruges”.
But I like them both. Why so many great actors/actresses are from UK or Australia?
tar wrote:
Ralph Fiennes, the sensitive kind women like, I can understand. But Liam Neeson is quite different, no? ;-)
- posted on 05/15/2009
Following up 2006's "The Da Vinci Code," "Angels & Demons" continues the adventures of globe-trotting symbologist Dr. Robert Langdon (Tom Hanks). The no-nonsense academic gets brought into the thick of ticking-clock intrigue as a centuries-old secret society, the Illuminati, strikes out at the Catholic Church as the church's leadership gathers to name a new Pope. The most surprising thing about "Angels & Demons" is that director Ron Howard seems to have listened to the criticisms of "The Da Vinci Code" -- a fairly turgid, bloated blockbuster -- and made a few course corrections as Langdon's conspiracy mission continues. This time around, "Code" screenwriter Akiva Goldsman is aided by David Koepp in adapting Dan Brown's best-selling novel. The action takes place "24"-style, keeping the pace up over a matter of hours, not days. Finally, Hanks' distracting hockey-hair mullet from the first film has been shorn and tamed, so that Langdon no longer looks like the oldest front-line player for the Toronto Maple Leafs.
And while it's easy to mock the first film for Hanks' hair, the fact is that "The Da Vinci Code" was a bit of a slog -- too much exposition, not enough run-and-gun action. (When Langdon refers to "The Da Vinci Code"'s adventures to a visitor from Rome, he mentions how he didn't think "that event had endeared me to the Vatican." He may as well have been talking about the audience.) The compressed time frame in "Angels & Demons" helps: The bad guys in the film have kidnapped four candidates for the papacy, and announced plans to kill them on the hour starting at 8 p.m., culminating in the midnight detonation of an antimatter bomb lifted from the lab of physicist Vittoria Vetra (Ayelet Zurer). This doesn't mean that there's less exposition in "Angels & Demons," but at least you get fed chunks of Catholic history and renaissance art factoids while the people spouting them are running to beat the clock.
Langdon and Vetra have to decipher the secret code that unlocks the stops on the "Path of Illumination," which points to the Illuminati's secret meeting place, which is where the bomb's hidden. Strip away all of the Catholic conspiracy hugger-mugger, and "Angels & Demons" plays out like a classic comic-book adventure, with Langdon as Batman, the Illuminati's sinister secret head as The Riddler and Vatican City subbing in for Gotham. A classic comic-book adventure with plenty of blood and gore, however: The Illuminati brand their victims, and there's plenty of other grisly business, like stabbings, shooting and people being burned alive, to give the movie the occasional shot of ultraviolence to keep things moving. "Angels & Demons" is a weird mix of holy, high-minded religious history and philosophy and grim, gory serial killing; think of it as "The Silence of the Lambs of Christ" and you've pretty much got it.
The supporting cast is made of excellent actors -- such excellent actors, in fact, that we can't quite figure out which of them will secretly be among the Illuminati's anti-Catholic rogue scientists and rationalists. Is it Armin Mueller-Stahl's cold Cardinal? Stellan Skarsgård's icy chief of the Swiss Guard? Can Langdon, Vetra and the previous Pope's right-hand man, Fr. Patrick McKenna (Ewan McGregor, with a Lucky Charms-elf "Oirish" accent that he should consider himself lucky we find charming), crack the code and save the Church and Rome from destruction?
There's a certain amount of theology and philosophy on deck in "Angels & Demons": Langdon keeps on being asked by various parties during his efforts if he believes in God, which makes you wish he'd say "Uh, there's a bomb set to go off; can we have this chat later?" But Howard shows the Catholic Church as an institution of fallible men -- some good, some evil; more well-intentioned than not -- and still conveys how Langdon's big, agnostic brain is linked to a good heart. And that stuff's all broken up by bloody business and gunplay, even if the script does bend over backward to have the unarmed Langdon and Vetra always be the first people in the room in the face of danger, or revolve around the world's worst hired killer. Howard even attempts some Hitchcock-style shots here, and while he fumbles, it's nice to see him at least try. The production design is mouth-wateringly sumptuous as well, the sort of thing that has you speed-dialing your travel agent as soon as the film's depiction of the glories of Rome is over. "Angels & Demons" earns a few sympathy points for being that much better than "The Da Vinci Code," but it also gets a nod for being a slick, speedy thriller that cuts between mystery and murder at an agreeable enough tempo to make two hours go by.
*** out of *****
59 out of 100 - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/15/2009
It would take a fool to make a poor movie out of Angels and Demons where there are so many wonderful elements for cinematography. - posted on 05/15/2009
I agree with gz this time, it's the sophistication embedded within, training/acting skills aside.
Not a fan of x-files, but I watched a movie years ago where David Duchovny played a professor with Julianne Moore as the main actress, I thought he was convincing, and he was an English professor before his acting career.
Colin Firth is way too sensitive. ;-)
Susan wrote:
It has something to do with the training? I think UK actors have more theatre experiences and that help them to understand what works with the audiences and what doesn’t.
David Duchovny nah… Too much X-Files and not enough Harrison Ford… How about Colin Firth?
yc wrote:
I feel the same. :-) They have the style that American actors don't have. - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/15/2009
:-))))))))))))))) It is true.
I do like sensitive guys though. :)
yc wrote:
Colin Firth is way too sensitive. ;-) - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/16/2009
刚看完电影回来。拍得果然不错。删减得恰当,最后的爆炸相当漂亮,但是对降落伞的影响小得不合理。当然,要是太认真,还有别的小毛病。总体来说,是个很好的娱乐片。 - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 05/16/2009
Ewan McGregor is exceptional. The movie wouldn't be the same without him.
You can almost tell who are destined to become great actors by watching their conduct. Those are the ones who quietly cultivate their crafts to perfection and never solicit media attentions. - posted on 05/16/2009
Pope Innocent McIV just died. So the movie starts with a solemn funeral procession, carrying the body of the bishop of Rome, the vicar of God, to St Peters Basilica.
I am a big sucker of traditional rituals. Years ago in New York I visited St Patric Cathedral. The stuffy air, the incense burning, and the murmuring of prayer in the clear presence of God nearly unnerved me - and I am an unabashed atheist. On this clear and warm night, sipping lemonade and popping popcorn in my mouth, my anticipation couldn't be any greater after the first scene, and the movie delivered - all the cliche of a mystery story, your usual suspects are not what they seemed, etc.
On the screen, the young handsome camerlengo is breaking the papal seal with a silver hammer, signifies the end of the reign of the dead pope. During the conclave of cardinals, the camerlengo assumes the papal authority in running the Vatican bureaucracy before the new pope is elected. For a more dramatic twist, he is made not to be a cardinal as the position traditionally requires.
The scene now shifts to Zurich, in the maximum security prison, eh I mean CERN's Large Hadron Collider facility, the female Italian physicist (a very attractive bombshell, but hey, they have porn star legislators in the parliament!) in the new field of Bio-entanglement (I hope I heard it right) is running an experiment to produce large quantities of antimatter. In a blink of an eye, the successfully generated antimatter in the collider is mysteriously transferred to a battery operated magnetic container and is promptly stolen.
In Cambridge Massachusetts, Harvard University is so prestigious that in Physics department alone, they have 200 Nobel laureates. But above everyone else the reputation of the university rests on the shoulders of the world famous symbologist/medieval historian, one professor Robert Landon, so much so that they open the swimming pool at 5 o'clock in the morning to accommodate his peculiar exercise regiment. As he is lapping in the pool this day, a Vatican emissary carrying an urgent request of help enters the gym. Apparently, a terrorist group by the name of the Illuminatis has gotten hold of the antimatter container and kidnapped four top cardinals who are competing in the beauty pageant/papal conclave, including the front-runner Cardinal Bagio from Italy.
The Illuminatis are a very old foe of the church. It's founder Galileo was forced to retract his embracing of heliocentrism, and later four of its members were tortured and branded and killed. For centuries they vowed for revenge, and apparently now is their chance. A video message is sent to the head of Swiss guards and a demand is made (for the love of God I can't remember what that demand is). If that demand is not met, each of the hostages will be killed on the hour starting from 8pm, and culminating in the big explosion at midnight that can destroy the Vatican three times over when the antimatter container's battery runs out, and the antimatter annihilates with the matter that is no longer separated by the electro-magnetic field.
Now to find the antimatter bomb placed somewhere in the Vatican and save the cardinals, who could be better than the world's foremost authority the good professor, who just wrote a volume of the history of the Illuminatis? There was some lingering resentment from the church for his previous run-ins with Opus Dei, but eager to save the church, the young camerlengo is willing to let bygones be bygones, and to accommodate Landon's insatiable desire to get into the Vatican archive for his next book, as well as solving the clues left by the terrorists.
Professor Landon, like most of his colleagues in studying the medieval history, is illiterate in Latin and Italian. (What's next? Nitpicking a classics professor's ignorance of ancient Greek?) But that hardly presents any impediment in his research in the archive, since the Italian sex kitten/physicist/pathologist extraodinaire comes to his rescue. Besides, the actual code is written in the margins of the book in watermark, and in English, the language of Newton and Shakespeare, the heroes of science worshiping Illuminatis. (Even though Newton wrote his Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica in Latin, but that's a minor inconvenience.)
Meanwhile in the inner chamber where the pope is resting, a murder mystery is developing with our resident pathologist (remember her field of expertise is BIO-entanglement?) leading the way to solving it, and finally the camerlengo opens the conclave to deliver the news to the quarreling cardinals who couldn't agree on who the next pope shall be. With clock ticking and Landon still running around Rome to find the hostages/bomb, the camerlengo wants to evacuate the Vatican and its tens of thousands worshipers who are awaiting the new pope's election. (His training in Italian army will come handy in saving numerous people.)
That's pretty much the first twenty minutes of the movie in a nutshell. Go see it if you have two hours to kill. It's a good laugh. ;-)
- posted on 05/17/2009
I hear you. The opening scene is quite stunning and unnerving.
When Robert Langdon needs help with his Latin, I was expecting somebody to ask him:"Your are the Harvard professor, are you not?" :)
The leading actress is rather regal looking. I wouldn"t call her sex kitten. ;-)
tar wrote:
Pope Innocent McIV just died. So the movie starts with a solemn funeral procession, carrying the body of the bishop of Rome, the vicar of God, to St Peters Basilica.
I am a big sucker of traditional rituals. Years ago in New York I visited St Patric Cathedral. The stuffy air, the incense burning, and the murmuring of prayer in the clear presence of God nearly unnerved me - and I am an unabashed atheist. On this clear and warm night, sipping lemonade and popping popcorn in my mouth, my anticipation couldn't be any greater after the first scene, and the movie delivered - all the cliche of a mystery story, your usual suspects are not what they seemed, etc.
- Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demons - spoiler warning: some minor details are revealedposted on 05/17/2009
Good job, Tar, except there are no demands from "Illuminati", just revenge in the form of public executions on the hours, 8, 9, 10, 11, and then annihilation, a diabolic ritual.
The plot in the movie is simplified a little, just enough to fit in the time limit. The lack of Latin, I guess, is for the audience to hear the interpretation.
The camerlengo turned out to be the late Pope's biological son by immaculate conception (the movie left it out). How? Science. - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demons - spoiler warning: some minor details are revealedposted on 05/17/2009
配乐很好,真给情绪。 - posted on 05/17/2009
I am glad they leave this part out. It is just too over the top.
I am still not satisfied with the pace of the film, although it is better than da vinci code. When their beloved cardinals are being killed off, I want to see the sense of urgency! Intense grief and disbelief! The desperation sinking in as time goes by! Not like: oh well, this one is a goner, let's move to the next one...
liaokang wrote:
The camerlengo turned out to be the late Pope's biological son by immaculate conception (the movie left it out). How? Science. - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demons - spoiler warning: some minor details are revealedposted on 05/17/2009
I felt urgency and desperation in the music. - posted on 05/17/2009
I have to admit we men are all partial to good looking women, but to me, a good looking intelligent woman can sometimes be more desirable than a playboy model. ;-)
And, I love the catholic rituals. I always said to my friends, if I were to become a Christian, I'd be a catholic - OK, I don't care too much about confessions.
Susan wrote:
I hear you. The opening scene is quite stunning and unnerving.
The leading actress is rather regal looking. I wouldn"t call her sex kitten. ;-)
- posted on 05/17/2009
OK, no demands. No wonder I can't remember.
You think if Brown had read 牛氓? ;-)
Illuminati, already plural. Showed how much a Latin illiterate I am. ;-)
liaokang wrote:
Good job, Tar, except there are no demands from "Illuminati", just revenge in the form of public executions on the hours, 8, 9, 10, 11, and then annihilation, a diabolic ritual.
The plot in the movie is simplified a little, just enough to fit in the time limit. The lack of Latin, I guess, is for the audience to hear the interpretation.
The camerlengo turned out to be the late Pope's biological son by immaculate conception (the movie left it out). How? Science. - posted on 05/17/2009
I think you are asking a bit too much of this kind of movie.
You just suspend all common sense and go along with the story. ;-)
Susan wrote:
I am glad they leave this part out. It is just too over the top.
I am still not satisfied with the pace of the film, although it is better than da vinci code. When their beloved cardinals are being killed off, I want to see the sense of urgency! Intense grief and disbelief! The desperation sinking in as time goes by! Not like: oh well, this one is a goner, let's move to the next one...
liaokang wrote:
The camerlengo turned out to be the late Pope's biological son by immaculate conception (the movie left it out). How? Science. - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demons - spoiler warning: some minor details are revealedposted on 05/17/2009
He might. I see some of the gadfly in the camerlengo.
tar wrote:
OK, no demands. No wonder I can't remember.
You think if Brown had read 牛氓? ;-) - posted on 05/17/2009
By the way, the movie I can't wait to see when it comes out is the movie adaptation of Cormac McCarthy's novel The Road. I read the book in a day and was deeply moved. It was a story about a father and son trying to survive a post apocalyptic nuclear winter where food is scarce and bandits everywhere. It was about the desire to survive, and unconditional love and sacrifice, and the eventual triumph of human spirit. You are rooting for them to make the hazardous journey to the warm south a success and yet the realization that all of this exercise is utterly pointless. Very dark indeed.
- posted on 05/17/2009
Susan wrote:
I am glad they leave this part out. It is just too over the top.
I am still not satisfied with the pace of the film, although it is better than da vinci code. When their beloved cardinals are being killed off, I want to see the sense of urgency! Intense grief and disbelief! The desperation sinking in as time goes by! Not like: oh well, this one is a goner, let's move to the next one...
Saw it last night. Maybe it is a sin on my part, but I just didn't feel any urgency, grief or disbelief when the four poor guys were to be killed one at a time. They hardly get much of my sympathy. Am I too cold-blooded? :-)
Da Vinci Code gives one better sense of history and mystery.
Come on, aren't you guys expecting too much out of this kind of summer movies? :-) - posted on 05/18/2009
I thought so. :)
That "regal looking" comment was a compliment.
tar wrote:
I have to admit we men are all partial to good looking women, but to me, a good looking intelligent woman can sometimes be more desirable than a playboy model. ;-)
Susan wrote:
I hear you. The opening scene is quite stunning and unnerving.
The leading actress is rather regal looking. I wouldn"t call her sex kitten. ;-)
- Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demons - spoiler warning: some minor details are revealedposted on 05/18/2009
This is what I am talking about. The pace is not right. It doesn't have to be a faster pace, but you have to keep the audiences emotionally engaged, and give them time to take in the gravity of the situation.
gz wrote:
Saw it last night. Maybe it is a sin on my part, but I just didn't feel any urgency, grief or disbelief when the four poor guys were to be killed one at a time. They hardly get much of my sympathy. Am I too cold-blooded? :-)
- posted on 05/18/2009
I blamed myself for not feeling sympathetic to those poor guys and felt so guilty for my sin. But now I know it is not my fault, it is the movie director's fault. Thank you, Susan! :-)
Susan wrote:
This is what I am talking about. The pace is not right. It doesn't have to be a faster pace, but you have to keep the audiences emotionally engaged, and give them time to take in the gravity of the situation.
gz wrote:
Saw it last night. Maybe it is a sin on my part, but I just didn't feel any urgency, grief or disbelief when the four poor guys were to be killed one at a time. They hardly get much of my sympathy. Am I too cold-blooded? :-)
- Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 10/16/2009
About this sophistication... Where do they get it from? Is it a pure culture thing? Do Chinese men or women have sophistication?
gz wrote:
Sophistication. American actors just don't seem to have as much sophistication as their European counterparts.
I am afraid the same can be said about popular culture... - posted on 10/16/2009
Wow, Susan, you dig out things that many months ago? You must have tons of time!
I do think it has to do with cultural tradition. The British has a long Shakespearean tradition and I can right away think of actors like Laurence Olivier. But on the other side of the Atlantic, America, and Hollywood in particular, is known to be the capital of popular culture and movie shows. That is why I have to go out of my way to see some good arty movies, mostly foreign. The artistic value and commercial value of a movie seem to add up to a constant.
But stage plays are in general more sophisticated. I still remember the play "Our Town" I saw on TV many years ago. Similarly, I appreciate the actors at 人艺 much more than those popular movie "stars" in China.
Susan wrote:
About this sophistication... Where do they get it from? Is it a pure culture thing? Do Chinese men or women have sophistication?
gz wrote:
Sophistication. American actors just don't seem to have as much sophistication as their European counterparts.
I am afraid the same can be said about popular culture... - posted on 10/16/2009
No I only like to chat when I have zero time. If I have tons of time I don't check internet. :)
Among Chinese actors and stars, who's got this sophistication?
gz wrote:
Wow, Susan, you dig out things that many months ago? You must have tons of time!
I do think it has to do with cultural tradition. The British has a long Shakespearean tradition and I can right away think of actors like Laurence Olivier. But on the other side of the Atlantic, America, and Hollywood in particular, is known to be the capital of popular culture and movie shows. That is why I have to go out of my way to see some good arty movies, mostly foreign. The artistic value and commercial value of a movie seem to add up to a constant.
But stage plays are in general more sophisticated. I still remember the play "Our Town" I saw on TV many years ago. Similarly, I appreciate the actors at 人艺 much more than those popular movie "stars" in China.
- posted on 10/16/2009
Susan wrote:
No I only like to chat when I have zero time. If I have tons of time I don't check internet. :)
I remember once you peeked at mayacafe on your laptop during a meeting, and unexpectedly some exotic pictures maya posted showed up on your screen. I thought that was so funny! Did you ever pay any price for visiting cafe when you had zero time? :-)
Among Chinese actors and stars, who's got this sophistication?
I am not familiar with any of those movie actors/actresses. They are showing up on TV a lot talking their trivial nonsense. When sometimes they put on some fake accent to 发嗲 or 撒娇,I can't help but think they just want to be f**ked. :-)
- posted on 10/16/2009
There will always be consequences, but maybe I want to be caught. :-)
But anyway this is not ethical. Not the honorable way to go out...
Thanks for chatting with me.
gz wrote:
Susan wrote:I remember once you peeked at mayacafe on your laptop during a meeting, and unexpectedly some exotic pictures maya posted showed up on your screen. I thought that was so funny! Did you ever pay any price for visiting cafe when you had zero time? :-)
No I only like to chat when I have zero time. If I have tons of time I don't check internet. :) - Re: 《天使与魔鬼》Angels and Demonsposted on 10/17/2009
此君的书是一本比一本好,到《达芬奇密码》就到了顶峰了。本人并没有过高地期望他的新书 The Lost Symbol,总不能每一本都打破世界售书记录吧。可是这一本实在太令人失望了,看了四分之三就怎么也看不下去了。有兴趣的去看看Amazon上的书评吧。
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